Missing redefining by clicking on Object in Algebra view

Try F3 :)

God bless you with many children!

;-)

please not too much children ... because with many of thoose little buddies, he wont have so much time for programmiung ...

BTW ... whats about F5 for "Copy to input-line"-command from the context-menu?

.... and I still dont like the two modes: select-mode and drag-mode.

I dont see the sense for the select-mode because it has only the little, not very essential function, to copy the name of an object to the input-line.

Its not very clear to see, which mode is now on ... and this is buggy, too. If Im in the select-mode an take a point and move it around, the mode change (as the help in the tool-bar shows) but the color is still blue.

Thats all not such really a good solution ...

Birgit

I miss the redefine option too ... F3 key is too limited. I liked clicking in the algebra view window to quickly inspect definitions. See other comments about this here:

http://www.geogebra.org/for...

We've now removed it. F5 now copies the name to the input bar :)

Thats a really cool service ...

write the wish in the evening and the next morning it is implemented :D

Like that, it is much better ... a clear functionality. Easy doing ... click with the one hand on the object and with the other hand tpy F5.

Thanks ... Birgit

Okay ...

for thoose how know that you can use F2 to F5 to get definition oder value to the input-line, this solution is okay.

But whats about the newbies? I would recommend to add this information to the help-window of the input-line.

The problem the remains in my opinion, is the using of the algebra-window. The help belongs to the input-line but if a newbie is working with the algebra-window, he does not care about the help of the input-line.

With the context-menu you can copy the value to the input-line and even change the definition ... but the redefintion is a bit hidden at the property-dialogue. In my opinion the context-menu for the objects in the algebra-window should also contain the commands of F2 to F5 (add the short-cut of thoose command after the command like in the common menu).

Regards, Birgit.

Yes, its better now without the confusing selection options.

In the help it would be useful to point out that holding down F3 or F4 like a shift or control key while clicking keeps you in this copy mode. I do not use F keys very much and did not get this at first.

Try Alt-click :)

I loved that I could click on objects in the algebra window to see or change their definition in the input bar, and I was quite surprised when this feature was removed. I use this all the time!

I see now that alt-click and F3 do the same thing, but these methods "hide" the functionality and increase the learning curve for newcomers to GeoGebra.

I don't see the advantage to actually removing the feature that simply clicking on the object in the algebra window puts it in the input bar. Is there some higher purpose to this going on behind the scene?

My feeling is that

(1) clicking an algebra object should place its definition in the input bar, and

(2) alt-clicking (or ctrl-click, or whatever) an algebra object should place its name in the input bar.

Hi Marc ...

you ever tried to double-click on it?

Birgit

Thanks for the alt-click feature :D ... it's much better than holding down F3.

(FWIW, I agree with Marc's strategy for selection. I often have to inspect/edit many long definitions that fill up the input bar. A quick click to get a definition is great and seems the most natural mode .... but that's just how I like it, others may disagree.)

If this is a referendum...: I very much agree with Marc and Waldo.

Redefinition by clicking is the WORST misfeature of Geogebra. I routinely end up accidentally redefining crucial objects into oblivion when I just want to select them. I would love this to be globally disable-able. It is becoming a nervous tick to constantly "click on the white" in order to clear the selection and avoid accidentally "overdefining" the selected object with the next object that I will click. The worst thing about this is that it is inconsistent: most of the time it doesn't happen and you can select things freely, EXCEPT when you have just edited current object's properties and the properties pane still shows that object's properties. Next thing you click, your object BECOMES that thing. Is it a crucial parameter that the WHOLE work depends on? Who cares! Geogebra will just happily overwrite it.

This is also why I don't use GeoGebra 6: it removed the /tmp hack that made it possible to recover lost work massacred by click-to-redefine blunders.